and that i thing that c-op plays a great role in being proactive as well. but they are not a replacement for the inspecters. and so, we have to be clear at what point is c-op education, and gentle nudging and organizizing and then the other side is at what point the inspecters go in and the routine inspections and the routine inspections and novs if they are called for and actually, i would like to find out, more from both sides of the house, i think that abatement, and the notices of abatement are very important and that is what ends up to us and so what we see, and maybe this is one side, at what we see, are cases that have been out there for years. what we hear about our neighbors and that this guy built this thing and it has been sitting there for five years. you told me that it is illegal, but, it is still sitting there and they are still using it. so, that is what we hear, and that is what we see.